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its a black thing too
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Permalink Reply by Troy on -
Joshua
as I suspect you'd agree, there are many openly homosexual Black males. However I agree that segment of our population does exist, and I think a lot of it is cultural. Whether your Black American or any other Black nationality and you live in the U.S. I think White America has seen Black males as a threat for generations, I think the Mandango warrior, ghetto culture, and the Black thug have strongly effected perceptions of Black men in America. I feel Members of other races ( particularly Whites ) saw Black men as aggressive and intimidating. And so I think Black America reclaimed this and tried to use it to it's advantage. I think it's to the point where if a man is perceived to be less then a man ( homosexual ), it's looked upon as shameful. And I think that's why a lot of us won't come out, we don't want to shame and disappoint our loved ones.
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Permalink Reply by ajd on -
I don't no huge amounts abourt Black African US culture, but re african friends I think like its such a huge big different cultre leap and alot of gay scene culture is just so trashy, superficial, and commericial, or at least thats an image of the party circuit scene and all that stuff? But then i am no black. So I'd thought I'd throw thta one up and out there anyway. And another thing who wants to be pushed out of the closet anyway. I decided to come out on my own terms and it was so much more empowering that way, and healthy. Great dreds man
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Permalink Reply by Troy on
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Aid
first off thinks for the compliment. And I agree, coming out usually isn't easy regardless of race or nationality. And like wise, I don't know much about Australian culture... enlighten me.
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Permalink Reply by ajd on
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Troy ITS AN AMAZING NATURAL LANDSCAPE, the best beaches in the world AND THE CITY CAPITALS ARE SO DIVERGENT. Very proud gay comunity and more multicultral THAN soem others. Community is very different to scene. Depends who youi find wherever you go though.
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Permalink Reply by MarcAshton on -
I live in England and we still have our problems with race and community but i will try to stay with the question thats asked and these are only my own personal views. I belive its a question and as hard as it may be for others to accept our your own sexuality, disscussions like this help us along the way.. Being of mixed race or blacki belive you have to go a little deeper, some say you have to accept your place within your own community, with its limatations but once you do that you can decide what you think is right or wrong from yourself and your own perspective. After all being gay puts us in minority and minority groups always suffer oppression from the majoriy group/ or whoever is more powerfull. So it stands to reason to want to be in the more powerfull group at risk to becoming weaker and possibliy hurt or abused. This can leads us in conflict with our true self/ feeling/wants ect. In England there are laws now to protect us and which try to address minority groups becoming victims which give some self empowerment and a level playing feild. one example is the The Employment Law Act which foebids discrimation through race, coulor or sexual prefrence.
Also Its more about perception, the black male has been stereo-typed to be a bit ganster and have attititude.. To be angrey.. This kinda runs in face of what it means to be gay.. I mean you can be gay and have attitude but the two some what do not find a comftable home together, well they dont with me.. It may take a number of years befroe one is happy with ones sexuality because of the experiances life gives us. its on on going jerney for me, but this can happen quicker usaly when the right partner comes along ,with finding the right partner or mate you can be real in what is otherwise just thourght or feeling.. This web site is an example of self empowerment- together we are stonger.. It gives voice to individuals who may have no where to turn or can offer comfort and find identification on issuess which affect us al..
The black male may find it harder because of cultural differences.. The messages that are give to young black men when they are younger can offten stay with them into adulthood. Its time to embrace not disgrace.. Society holds a hold on all of us,, wheather we like it or not.. We must change socieity by voicing what we belive to be acceptable and this makes it easyer for those who follow in our path...
Thanks for letting me join in this disscussion... Mark
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Permalink Reply by Alexios on -
Joshua,
I'm Greek, same here with my community, live your life, here for a good time not a long time.
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Permalink Reply by MarcAshton on
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Nice dreads.. dude ;-)
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Permalink Reply by MJ on
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Good question my friend,I came out over twenty years ago at the height of the "Aids" crisis.I was definitely not easy because I was one of a handful of out gay black men in Toronto,Canada at the time.My family was freaked out by it and my Dad disowned me.Those whom truly loved me accepted me with time,my Mom especially.Over the years she and my little sister had met at least three of my boyfriends.
However in the black community whether it be Canada or the United States,most black men prefer the "DL" to avoid the stigmas attached to the words "gay" or "homosexual".I came out kicking and screaming so to speak and my life has been one that I can look back and be proud of.I have had the privilege to travel and see some of the world,made some really cool friends along the way, met and partied with celebs over the years....the last thing in the world I would have chosen for my self is life on the down low.If nothing else my Dad did say one thing worthwhile and that was always be true to yourself and hold you head up high especially as a black man.
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